Looks like I had this before. Really no change in review. This is weak. I need to get some true German versions.

Toasted bready malts with a little caramel. This one is on tap which is a little better then the bottle. Still weak overall tho

This is another with some toasted bready malts but not much to this one. It is weak overall and lacks any depth - not that Marzen style beers are real complex. This one needs more umph Overall a solid average Octoberfest beer. Yes a 2.5