This is an excellent amber. It has bready malts with some toffee. Also has a nice hop bitterness that just stays with you. The hops are pine & grapefruit but leaning just a little more to the pine side. The pic is on the dark side. It is truly a red color. I find myself licking my lips after every sip. Overall it is a 4.25 bordering on a 4.5. Yum